At Home for Christmas: Our new interview with Dirtyboyz magazine
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When we were in London last month, Dirk and I sat down with Dirtyboyz magazine to be interviewed for their annual holiday issue… but little did we know that we’d also end up on the front cover! We discussed our porn origins, what it’s like working as a couple (and apart) in the industry, and — most importantly — what we’re getting each other for Christmas. I’ve posted the article below; please be sure to visit Dirtyboyz.xxx for the latest industry news and information about events thought the UK!
One couple who seem to have the whole porn relationship deal sorted are the kings of hairy bear and daddy pornJesse Jackman and Dirk Caber. The couple celebrated their third anniversary last month, were in London at the launch of Eagle London’s Men Inc and are planning their family Christmas together. For our seasonal interview, Paul Stag discovered how Jesse and Dirk keep their relationship on track whilst being such high profile porn stars and what their plans are for Christmas.
How did you both get into porn?
JESSE: Over July 4th weekend in 2011 I met Hunter Marx, a Titan model, and his partner Ethan Anders in Saugatuck, Michigan. They were hot. We fucked around a lot and had a ton of fun, so much so that I started idly wondering if what we did might be reproducible in front of a camera. A week later, back in Boston, I happened to run into Roman Wright, an old friend, and half-jokingly asked him if he thought I could work in porn with no serious intent to ever do it, despite my curiosity. He said he thought I could, but that I shouldn’t. Roman knows me pretty well, and thought I wouldn’t deal well with the inevitable criticism that comes with public performance. Then, out of the blue, I got a message on Facebook from Patrick Finger: “Hi Jesse, I handle casting for Titan Media. I’m standing here with Roman Wright, and he’s telling me that you’d like to work with us. You’re a great looking guy. Are you interested?” Within a couple of weeks I flew to San Francisco to film my first scene — with Hunter Marx, the Titan Man from Saugatuck, of all people, for my first TitanMen film, Surveillance. I eventually got to shoot a scene with Roman too, a flip scene inCommand Performance.
DIRK: I came from a similar place of curiosity, and with about as much intent. I’d had a background in BDSM in the New York scene, and I’d made a lot of friends in that world online. One was Paul Wilde, who turned out to be the director of the Rough line at Titan. He said that it was a rare guy who both knew his way around a flogger and a hank of rope and also looked the role, and thinking I did, he asked if I would ever consider porn. I declined politely and gratefully, thinking nobody ever really would want to watch me on screen, and he understood. We stayed friends, though, and every so often he’d reissue the invitation. Eventually I figured he was the professional and probably knew what might work better than I did, so I decided I’d make just one. Okay, maybe two. Titan I was certain would then find someone younger, better looking, more hung… and that would be that. That decision was made in January of 2010, and I filmed my first scene in July, in which I tie up the very sexy and perfect first scene partner Tony Vega inKennel Master. I had no expectation that four years and some eighty-odd scenes later I’d still be at this.
How did you both meet?
DIRK: In September of 2011 Jesse had just signed with Titan and was having a couple of misgivings about his decision to enter porn. A mutual friend in San Francisco mentioned to Jesse that he knew someone who had been in the industry a while and who might be able to help him come to some understanding. I lived in Chicago and he in Boston. But our buddy introduced us almost by surprise at Beatbox during Folsom of that year; he brought Jesse across to the bar and cornered me there.
JESSE: I had seen Sting starring Dirk and had jerked off to it several times. When I first agreed to film with Titan, they told me that my first scene partner would be Hunter Marx. I started watching his movies as “research”. I wanted to learn a little about Hunter — what turned him on — so that we could film the best scene possible together. And there was Dirk right alongside Hunter and another Titan man, Shay Michaels. My first thought was, “Oooh, who’s that hottie getting spitroasted on the conference table?”. Little did I know what the next three years would bring.
What are you doing for Christmas?
DIRK: Christmas is usually a family affair for me, with my parents and siblings and their families and kids. Adding Jesse and his mom to that mix has come entirely naturally; my folks have always been amazing at accepting any friend of mine as instant family. Indeed, I’ve friends I started “adopting” at holidays in my college days 20-odd years ago who still come to my family for holidays more often than they do their own — they’re as much siblings at this time of year as my own brother and sister, and we’re always adding more.
JESSE: Our moms are both great cooks, as is Dirk’s sister, and his brother-in-law makes some pretty incredible pies. The day starts with a huge breakfast, then we open presents, then we eat and eat and eat some more… to the point where I feel like I’m going to explode. Perhaps the greatest gift I give myself on Christmas Day is to forget about my diet! But I think the best part of the holiday for me is being around Dirk’s nieces and nephews. I grew up with such a tiny family, essentially just me and my mom. Now to have all this instant family and Dirk’s four nieces and nephews who actually call me “Uncle Jesse” running around is just an awesome part of this holiday I really never thought I’d get to experience or enjoy.
What are you giving each other for Christmas?
DIRK: Undying love and affection. Daily internal back rubs. World peace. I suspect Jesse’s had my Christmas presents stashed away somewhere for months already. Me, I’ll still be shopping on Christmas Eve!
JESSE: Actually, I honestly don’t know yet. I’m always on the lookout for good Christmas (or, in my family’s case, Hanukkah) presents all year round. If I see something that I think would make a great present, I’ll buy it even if Christmas is months away. For example, I gave Dirk a pocket watch last year that I bought for him in September! This year, nothing has jumped out at me yet. I suspect that’ll change soon. In the meantime, I have a pretty good back-up plan, but if I tell you what it is it’ll ruin the surprise!
How do you handle jealousy, knowing that one of you “is walking around outside a building while his partner is inside being fucked by half of San Francisco”, to use a well-known quote from a former porn star couple?
DIRK: “Half of San Francisco” really isn’t quite a fair description. I film about two scenes a month, meaning I have sex with two guys (and maybe some statistical fraction more, to account for the very rare threesome) on average a month. Jesse films even more rarely, about eight scenes a year. There isn’t much justification to get jealous when this is such a non-occurrence. Our envy strikes more often when one of us has the opportunity to work with someone the other has lusted after. We generally joke about it though, because we know full well that in a few weeks the tables will turn and it’ll be the other’s opportunity to be envious!
Is being a known couple a help or a hindrance to your ongoing adult careers?
DIRK: There are a lot of porn stars out there, and more all the time. It’s a huge advantage to be able to distinguish yourself somehow from the general mass of cute faces, sexy bodies, big cocks, and tight asses. Being an established and secure couple in that world has proven a very strong advantage. There aren’t many of us couples, after all: Tomas Brand and Logan Rogue, Josh West and Peter Axel, Seth and Billy Santoro, Austin and Tyler Wolf. Those come to mind mainly because they’re good friends of ours.
What is the horniest thing you have done on set?
JESSE: In Loud and Nasty, I shocked Dirk with a 500,000 volt taser, pissed in his mouth, then fucked him on a pommel horse. It was horny and raunchy and oh so much fun.
DIRK: My most extreme scene for Titan was a threesome in Invasive Procedures with Tibor Wolfe and Ethan Hudson. It started with Tibor inflating his scrotum with a saline drip until it was stretched to the size of a grapefruit. Seems watersports figured in that scene too somewhere, but I’d have to go back to see. We finished the scene with me and Ethan taking turns fisting Tibor and stroking his engorged ballsack until he came.
Dirk, you started in BDSM, what are your favorite fetishes and sex acts?
DIRK: I’ve always been a big bondage nut; I love elaborate ropework and shibari and such, but I also love just slapping a guy in a set of leather cuffs and straps. I love to flog a guy, partly because I love a good flogging myself — it’s seriously the world’s best back massage, and done right, it opens some internal emotional portals you didn’t know you had. I love building and confirming the sense of trust a sub has to have in me to put himself into my hands in any of these situations. Indeed, the biggest thing to understand about BDSM in general, regardless of how mean or serious a player you are, is that it is still a very, very deep form of intimacy.
Is both of you being involved in the adult industry a strength or a weakness in your relationship?
DIRK: It certainly makes sure we always have something to talk about! Between the news and drama of the industry, keeping an eye out for friends, and just trying to juggle our disparate schedules, there’s never a dull moment. We do on occasion have to sigh and just say, “Babe, can we PLEASE talk about anything else for a while?” We laugh. And change the subject. For about ten minutes.
How do fans follow all your sleazy goings-on and hear about your latest film releases and personal appearances?
JESSE: The best place to follow me is on my blog, at www.JesseJackman.xxx. My Facebook page, atfacebook.com/JesseJackman, is happily still up and thriving. And I’m on Twitter at @JesseJackmanXXX.
DIRK: My blog is at www.DirkCaber.com, though Jesse’s blog often has far more news and information. A little of my music can be listened to on a page Jesse set up at www.soundcloud.com/JesseJackman. I’m also on Twitter at@DirkCaber.
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